Playing Against the London System with …Nbd7

ECO D02 105,884 games Stockfish +0.37

The London System is a popular weapon for White, and when they face 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4, a common response is to develop the queen's knight to d7. You've reached a crossroads: after 3…Nbd7 4.e3, it's your turn. The engine evaluates this at +0.37 — a small edge for White, which means you are slightly worse right from the start. Don't panic. A slight disadvantage is nothing at club level, and knowing the right plan will put you ahead of most opponents. The drill below lets you practise this exact position against an engine that adapts to your play.

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What You're Fighting For

The London System isn't about wild attacks — White wants a solid, space-holding setup with easy development. After 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bf4 Nbd7 4.e3, White has a compact centre and the bishop on f4 already active. Your task as Black is to challenge that centre before White gets to play c4 or e4 themselves. You're not worse by much, but you need a clear plan. If you play passively, White will slowly build up and you'll find yourself defending without counterplay. The good news: in over 105,000 games from this position, Black still wins 43.6% of the time — almost half.

The Engine's Best Reply: e6

Stockfish's top choice here is 4…e6, and it's also the most popular move in practice, appearing in 42,986 games. The idea is simple: open lines for your light-squared bishop, reinforce the d5 pawn, and prepare to strike back with …c5. After 4…e6, the engine continues 5.h4 — yes, an early h-pawn push — followed by 5…c5 6.c3. That h4 move isn't a mistake; it's a tricky attempt to create kingside space and sometimes trap your bishop if you play …Be7 and later …g6. Your response with …c5 is exactly right: hit back in the centre immediately. White scores 52.3% after 4…e6, the same as after 4…c5, so neither reply gives White a bigger edge — it's really about which kind of middlegame suits you.

What the Statistics Reveal

Let's look at the most-played continuations side by side. After 4.e3, Black's options and White's winning percentages: e6 (42,986 games, White wins 52.3%); c5 (13,603 games, 52.4%); c6 (11,892 games, 52.6%); g6 (10,612 games, 50.5%); Nh5 (5,823 games, 52.3%); a6 (5,362 games, 51.2%). The big surprise? g6 gives White the lowest win rate at 50.5% — essentially equal. Fianchettoing your king's bishop can lead to a dynamic game where White's h4 push is less effective. But e6 and c5 are solid and principled. The important takeaway: avoid passive moves that don't challenge the centre. The London isn't dangerous if you fight back early.

Mistakes to Punish

Club players playing the London System often go on autopilot — they develop without thinking. If White pushes early for an attack with h4 (as in the engine line), or plays c3 without purpose, you can punish them by opening the centre with …c5 at the right moment. Your knight on d7 is well-placed to support …e5 breaks later, or to jump to f8 and defend the kingside. One common mistake to watch for: White playing Bg3 too early, retreating the bishop. That's a sign they don't have a clear plan. Counter by rushing …c5 and …Qb6, attacking the b2 pawn. The drill will show you exactly how the engine punishes any passive play.

Results across 105,884 Lichess games

52.5%
3.9%
43.6%
■ White 52.5% ■ Draw 3.9% ■ Black 43.6%
Most-played continuationGamesWhite wins
e642,98652.3%
c513,60352.4%
c611,89252.6%
g610,61250.5%
Nh55,82352.3%
a65,36251.2%

Frequently asked questions

Is the London System with Nbd7 dangerous for Black?

Not especially. The engine gives +0.37, a small edge for White, so you are slightly worse — but that's well within the range of equal play for club players. Black scores 43.6% from this position, which is respectable. With accurate responses like e6 or g6, you get a perfectly playable game.

What is the best move against the London System after 3.Bf4 Nbd7 4.e3?

The engine recommends 4…e6, setting up a solid pawn chain and preparing …c5. It's also the most popular move, played over 42,000 times. Second-best choices include c5 (attacking immediately) and g6 (fianchetto setup, which gives White only 50.5% wins).

Why does the engine suggest h4 after Black plays e6?

White pushes h4 to gain space on the kingside and sometimes threaten to trap your bishop if you develop it to e7 and later play …g6. It's a common London System idea, not a blunder. Your correct response is to ignore it and continue with …c5, challenging the centre. The engine line runs e6 h4 c5 c3, and Black is fine.

Should I play c5 or e6 against the London System?

Both are good. e6 is the engine's first choice and leads to a solid, positionally sound game. c5 hits the centre immediately and has similar winning percentages for White (52.4%). The choice depends on your style — e6 is more positional, c5 more direct. g6 is also underrated, giving White its lowest win rate at 50.5%.

How many games feature the London System: Nbd7?

Over 105K Lichess games have reached the London System: Nbd7 position. White wins 52.5%, Black wins 43.6%, with 3.9% draws — based on real rated games.